You were just talking about doing things yourself, personal drive, and craftsmanship. What fascinates you about this ‘sense of autonomy’?
It’s about having control over the parameters and making your own decisions. And taking responsibility when things don’t quite work out. Then the principle is: the problem is me, not the machine. It’s like driving a car. Just like with the 911 Carrera T. If you can’t manage to change gear quickly and smoothly, then the problem isn’t the car. I think you should take matters into your own hands. The same goes for coffee: if it doesn’t taste right, you know there simply must be a fault somewhere in the process – the temperature, the water, or some other variable.
And when it’s just right, the satisfaction is all the greater?
Absolutely – that’s the beauty of it. Selecting the individual materials so that they later fit in with the design concept of the bar or kitchen. But I also enjoy catering to the customer’s specific requests: I’ll soon be starting work on a machine for a Porsche driver. He’d like to replicate the stitching from his sports car’s interior on his machine. I told him: ‘Sure, I’ll make that happen.’ It’s brilliant to bring the whole thing to life and let your own creativity run wild.
Are that sort of autonomy and taking your time the luxury of our times?
Absolutely. If I were employed somewhere, I wouldn’t be able to take coffee breaks so often! (laughs) There’s nothing better than making your own decisions. It starts with work. And ends with which route you take home by car. For me, the quickest route is the most boring; the other route takes longer, but it’s nicer to drive. Sometimes I take the time. That’s a luxury.