You just spoke about making things yourself, the personal drive, the manual labour. What fascinates you about this "maturity"?
It's about having the parameters under control and making your own decisions. And taking responsibility if things don't work out. In that case, the problem is me, not the machine. It's like driving a car. Just like with the 911 Carrera T. If you don't manage to change gear quickly and well, then the problem isn't the car. I think you should take things into your own hands. Even with coffee: if it doesn't taste good, you know that there must be a fault somewhere in the process: Temperature, water, or another variable.
And when it's right, the satisfaction is all the greater?
Absolutely, that's the beauty of it. Determining the individual materials so that they later match the design concept of the bar or kitchen. But I also enjoy catering to the customer's special wishes: I'm about to start working on the machine for a Porsche driver. He would like to transfer the embroidery seams of his sports car interior to his machine. I told him: "Sure, I can do that. The whole thing is easy to realise and you can also give free rein to your own creativity.</p
Are such maturity and taking time for yourself the luxury of our time?
In any case. If I was employed somewhere, I wouldn't be able to take so many coffee breaks! (laughs) There's nothing better than being able to decide for yourself. It starts with work. And ends with which route you take home by car. The quickest route is the most boring for me, the other route takes longer but is nicer to drive. Sometimes I take my time. That's a luxury.